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so EPP was 51% owned by Enron,
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49% by the public.
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The--while I was the CFO and then later President of EPP,
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the CEO and Chairman of the Board was Rod Gray
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who was an executive at Enron;
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the parent is where he made most of his money from the parent.
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What would happen is that
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Rod would come up with some new scheme
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for Enron to be able to dump some expenses
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on the minority-- on EPP,
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but really I wasn't concerned about Enron,
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I was concerned about the minority shareholders.