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It was not "publish or perish" but "publish and perish."
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It was not a good thing to come out and say what you thought,
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and he still did that.
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Even independent of the social risk,
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how did anybody figure this out,
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because even today, even when I know this is true,
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I look around, it doesn't look like this at all to my eyes.
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So, on a good day,
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I flatter myself into thinking
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I could have maybe discovered this or discovered that.
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There is no way I would have done this.
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This is really amazing. Go out and look.