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at a veterans reunion he said this:
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"The Civil War"--this is Frederick Douglass--
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"Was not a fight between rapacious birds and ferocious beasts,
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a mere display of brute courage and endurance,
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it was a war between men of thought, as well as of action,
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and in dead earnest for something beyond the battlefield."
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He went on and on and on
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then to declare that the war had been about ideas,
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and he described the difference between those ideas,
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as he put it, was the difference between,
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quote, "Barbarism and civilization."
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Now, Im going to spend this lecture just reflecting with you on,