来自《耶鲁大学开放课程：古希腊历史简介 第6集 第6集》

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  from the eighth century on into the fourth,
  典型的的希腊战争
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  never loses its character as a kind of a game,
  从未褪去其中类似游戏的特质
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  in which there are winners and losers,
  有人赢 有人输
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  and the winners are given the prize
  赢了有糖吃
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  and the losers don't get the prize.
  输了舔手指
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  It's a contest just like everything else in Greek society
  这种竞争与希腊社会中
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  and there's a tremendous amount of pride
  其他斗争一样
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  that goes into victory and a tremendous amount of shame
  胜者王 享受无穷荣耀
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  that goes into defeat.
  败者寇 受千万人耻笑
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  But we said the same thing about the Homeric heroes,didn't we?
  荷马史诗中的英雄也是这样吗
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  Here's the difference;
  两者是有区别的
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  they're not fighting for themselves,
  希腊人并不是为自己而战