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Okay, fair enough, trumpet and trombone.
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There's one other important one that actually was in the
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orchestra before the trombone.
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Chris.
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The French horn, and in point in fact the
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trumpet and French horn were in there first.
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Then Beethoven, with the Fifth Symphony brings in the trombone,
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but it's not until the nineteenth century that
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the trombone gets added to the orchestra.
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Where does Beethoven do so?
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Well, he does it in the finale of his Fifth Symphony
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when he wants this particularly powerful brass sound