-
Lyon would be a good example.
-
Lyon has the most tightly closed middle class
-
that you can imagine and still is.
-
Lyon is very Lyon.
-
What can one say?
-
Again, northern Italy you find a huge vibrant middle class,
-
but not in southern Italy.
-
Naples is one of the biggest cities in Europe
-
right through the early-modern period.
-
You've got a large middle class,
-
but most of Italy is extremely rural
-
and what you had in Rome is you had clergy.