that is a contradiction,

这就是矛盾所在
and it's a very interesting kind of tug.

这也是一个非常有趣的拔河比赛
I think you know this--

你们应该知道
you have to understand that the Spartans

那些斯巴达人在我看来
are living in a condition of strain, it seems to me,

生活在一种非常紧张的社会关系中
much greater than most societies impose on people.

比大多数社会所给予人们的感觉要强烈的多
But it's obviously arranged so effectively that it works;

事实上这种制度确实非常有效
we don't have an evidence sort of mass insanity

历史上并没有任何关于大量精神病的案例
or great need for psychiatrists or anything like that.

或诸如对精神病医生需要的记载
If it was an insane society they were all insane in the same way

如果他们真的疯了那所有的人都得疯
and they didn't know it,

而且还没人意识到自己有病
and I think that we have to face that fact.

所以我觉得我们得接受现实