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So Spartan women were really something else and there they are.
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But if you take the whole picture, what is it?
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It is, as I say, the degradation of the family in favor
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of the importance of the polis as a whole, its needs, and its structure.
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It is a warrior ethic,
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it is based upon the principle of the hoplite phalanx
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and I want to read to you a piece of poetry
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written by this Spartan poet, Tyrtaeus,
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who is dated somewhere in the seventh century
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that gets at a number of the topics I've been talking about so far.
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Here's how it goes:
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"I would not say anything for a man,