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Then they--there is--as usually what happens
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when one group is opposed to another,
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they tend to vilify the people.
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They can vilify the ideas and that's all that,
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but then you can vilify the people as well.
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So the characterization of these people is out of control,
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hysterical crazy, is quite common from that point of view.
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Now the people who are the activists on this
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have a number of things that are out there and available
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and there is one particular video clip that some--
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how many of you have seen The Meatrix thing?
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Okay, just a minority of you, but still a fair number.