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And what I was trying to persuade her in this meeting was to
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take me on as one of her students, to let--to be my adviser.
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And it's about my third or fourth week of graduate school and
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I'm pretty nervous about this.
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And she could be intimidating to a first-year graduate student.
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And I remember I was holding this mug of coffee
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and I was pleading with her,
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trying to convince her to take me on as her student,
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and I was saying, "Judy, I'll get a lot done.
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I'll work really hard. I can analyze data.
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I can write." and I'm talking about myself and
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I'm swinging--I'm using my hands as I talk.