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et cetera, et cetera
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goes the naval rivalry that heats up after the turn of the century.
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And in both Germany and in Britain, as in France,
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you've got these naval leagues,
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you've got these groups of citizens who invite admirals to dinner,
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they give thundering speeches about defeating the perfidious Albion or defeating whomever,
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they all-- but what they really want to do is to get their countries to
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build more big ships; and, of course, industrialists just love that.
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And the stuff that Charles was talking about the other day,
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bring an explorer to lunch,
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and then have him talk about how awful the horrible Huns are, that is the Germans,
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the borschts and all that, in the French case.