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It's a little bit controversial because those guidelines
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are not as strong as a lot of public health advocates would like,
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but at the same time the philosophy there
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is that it's better to work with the industry
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and get the industry to agree to make these changes.
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Another person is the former governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee.
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He is another very charismatic speaker,
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very passionate about this issue,
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and always talks about his
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own personal experience of losing 100 pounds.
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He's really become a crusader on this.
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While he was governor he, I think,