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But another one is I think the effect is real,
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but it's not entirely clear that it reflects poorly
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on the cultures of honor as opposed to the other cultures.
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So, Nisbett, for instance, is himself a southerner
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and he points out that he went to the North
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he was most astonished by how rude people are.
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And this is because the North--
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the American North is not particularly a culture of honor,
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and so there's less proper behavior towards other people
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because there's no fear of retaliation or response.
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Moreover, the culture of honor virtues like
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honor, loyalty, courage and self-reliance,