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and then I could go back and read it,
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but he screws up the detail of it over and over again,
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and so I think there are good grounds
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for condemning him as a general,
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whereas, the grounds on which Pericles should be criticized,
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I think, is as a strategist rather than as a commander.
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Anybody else? Yeah?
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No, but I think they -- well,
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I'll make one little exception to that,
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but I think they could have had a very good chance to
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come out of the war in the way Pericles hoped they would,
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if they had pursued the limited aggressive program that