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And then fourth, that last question that's always laying out there.
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John Brown was a white man
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who killed white people to free black people.
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And that's actually one of his deepest legacies.
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In my first years of teaching
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in a big urban high school in Flint, Michigan,
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I taught lots of young black people
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who thought John Brown was black.
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They had been taught that he was black, sometimes in churches.
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There's a church in Springfield, Massachusetts,
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that John Brown went to, attended --
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they say he was a member --