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if you want to call it that, and Southern secessionism --
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already it was.
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Now, the front running candidate of the Democratic Party by 1860 --
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and this man had been working for this for a decade and a half --
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was, of course, Stephen Douglas of Illinois;
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the same Stephen Douglas of Popular Sovereignty fame.
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But Stephen Douglas had made one slip-up.
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Well he'd made more than one
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but he'd made one, two really big slip-ups
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in terms of his fellow Southern Democrats --
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and he's by far the most prestigious person in their party.
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But in one of his debates with Abraham Lincoln,