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Okay, we look at a lot of the companies.
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Obviously, I have a whole group of people here that do that
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and I have a bunch of lawyers
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that look at all the covenants in these companies
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and their bylaws and their charters.
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But really, some of them become very apparent
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and when you look at them you can understand.
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And you have to see that in relation to the economy.
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Some of these companies
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--it's just apparent that the value of these companies
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would be much better if they were better run
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or they just simply did certain things like breaking