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immediately is a kind of an artificial society put together
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for the purpose of defeating the Trojans and taking their city.
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As I've suggested to you,
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the values that are the most important are community values.
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That is to say,the reward of good behavior
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the admiration and the honor that a hero gets,
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and the most serious punishment he can suffer
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is to be shamed in front of that community.
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Aristotle, writing late in the Greek tradition,
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but still powerfully influence by these kinds of ideas,
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speaks about man as a--the Greek words
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are a politicon zoon,