来自《耶鲁大学开放课程：古希腊历史简介 第4集 第4集》

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  hearing the Greeks talk about the polis in terms
  希腊人说到城邦这个术语的时候
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  that are more in your mind than in touch.
  你能立刻想到的就比你接触到的要多
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  Sixth-century Greek poet,Alcaeus wrote,
  六世纪的希腊诗人 阿尔凯奥斯
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  not houses finally roofed,
  曾经写道 "不是因为房屋最终在这里盖起
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  or the stone of walls well built,
  或是坚固的石墙在这里伫立
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  no not canals or dock yards make the polis,
  不是运河或码头让城邦成为城邦
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  but men able to use their opportunity.
  而是这里的人们能使用他们的机会"
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  If you get into the fifth century, late in the fifth century,
  如果你回到五世纪 在五世纪末
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  Thucydides in his history has one of his generals
  修昔底德在他的年代就曾经
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  speak to his men and say,"Men are the polis."
  对人民做过一次演讲 他说"人就是城邦"
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  So, we need to straighten out for ourselves what that means?
  所以我们需要强调到底这是什么意思
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  Does that mean that the place where these people live
  是不是意味着人民居住的地方不是城邦