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What's the principle that you're appealing?
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What's the argument you have in mind?
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- Alrightt. Well, biblically... - Put it in the third person.
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- Okay. - Rather than...
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...rather than in a second person. Make the argument.
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Okay. Biblically, masturbation or onanism, is not permissible
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because it's spilling your seed on the earth
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when it's not going to result in the birth of a child.
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But what I'm saying is, you're saying that sex,
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there's something wrong with sex if it doesn't produce children
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- or reinforce the marriage bond. - Right.
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But then how can you say that there's something wrong,