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- or reinforce the marriage bond. - Right.
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But then how can you say that there's something wrong,
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that masturbation is permissible, if masturbation, obviously,
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is not going to create a child?
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where they say this is what we hold as a virtue.
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Yes, every day we fall short and people fall short
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in so many different other ways,
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but I think that if you personally fall short,
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and some morals fear, as we all do,
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that doesn't take the right of you to argue.
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All right, I want you, to stay there.
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I want to bring in some other voices and we'll continue.