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"From the Station, Railroad Station, to the Great Debate,"
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where they'd be debating people of other policies.
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And they're on the-- they do the Tour de France,
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giving these speeches.
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And it's really in the 1880s and the 1890s
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that you really do have this sort of apprenticeship of the republic,
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and the apprenticeship of mass politics
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and of socialist movements through these debates.
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And that's what a conférence contradictoire is, in French,
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or just call it a debate,
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a lecture followed by a debate.
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And, for example, when I was studying porcelain workers