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when we've been down there visiting,
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who will say things like,
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we'll talk about anything on the nutrition front
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but we can't touch the subsidies.
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It becomes such a powerful issue,
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and they don't want to tangle with those powerful political forces.
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So the subsidies remain intact.
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In fact, in the most recent version of the Farm Bill,
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the subsidies were basically left untouched.
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Food costs can promote both
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hunger and obesity in the ways that we talked about.
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So economics are a pretty important player here