getting us to, helping us to,

指引我们帮助我们
think about the forms for the very first time.

去开始首次思考这些型相上的事物
Well, if that's right, then of course,

如果这是对的
we don't have any good reason to follow Plato when he says,

我们当然就不必相信柏拉图之后的
"It must be the case that the soul existed prior to the--prior to birth."

灵魂一定是先于肉体而存在的观点
Now, the objection I've just raised is not an objection

我刚刚提出的这个反驳不是柏拉图
that Plato raises in the Phaedo,

在《斐多篇》中提到的
but he does raise a different objection.

不过他提出了另外一个异议
Remember our concern isn't,

请记住我们的讨论
strictly speaking, with the question,

严格来讲不仅仅是问
"Did the soul exist before our birth?

灵魂在我们出生前存在吗
Did the soul exist before our bodies?"

灵魂是先于肉体的存在吗