raised in that novel.

在那部小说里提出
At the same time, like McCarthy,

同时像麦卡锡
he has a trans-historical understanding of what access to the past would be,

他对什么才能追溯到历史有着一个超越历史的理解
through the trans-historical theme of desire.

通过希望超越历史
So, desire is the same now as it was in Hawthorne's time.

所以这时的愿望和时期的一样
The desire to purify the American libido in the Monica Lewinsky trial

在莫妮卡·莱温斯基的实验中想要净化美国人性欲的愿望
is not different, for Roth,

没有什么不同对于罗斯
from the spasm of purification

从霍桑写在《红字》中的
that Hawthorne writes about in The Scarlet Letter.

净化开始
So, that is a different vision of what it means to be trans-historical,

这时一种关于超越历史意味着什么的不同视角
and I think it allows for Roth that fearless setting of the contemporary.

我认为这允许罗斯大胆的设定现代
He doesn't look to a historical setting that's distant from himself.

他不会参考离他非常遥远的历史的设定