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but she was immediately suspicious of racism in the United States,
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in the 1940s and the 1950s, as indeed in our own time,
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sadly, though not as much,
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was a time of racism;
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and she said so, she came right out and said,
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and that became a part of the anti-American discourse.
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Because when the Americans would get holier than thou
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about how people in
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Europe treated their minorities, all you had to look to the United States,
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where I can think back to my own childhood when the three freedom
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workers were so brutally murdered in Mississippi;
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and they would point to that.