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But Plato has given us enough.
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In the first place, they are young aristocrats,
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and Glaucon's desire to
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hear justice praised for its own sake indicates
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something about his scale of values.
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It would be vulgar, he believes, to speak of justice,
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or any virtue in terms of material rewards or consequences.
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He does not need to hear justice praised for its benefit,
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he's indifferent to the consequences.
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Rather, he claims that he wants to hear
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justice defended the way that
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no one has ever defended it before.