It's very contrapuntal.

运用了很多对位法
Counterpoint is always harder to

对于管弦乐团来说
play in an orchestra than homophony because every--

对位法总是比主调音乐难演奏
we've got all these things that have to be coordinated.

因为对位法要求各个部分协调起来
So let's listen to this.

让我们来听一下
If things seem muddled and unclear in a performance of this piece,

在演奏时曲子会不会含糊不清
my guess is it's--it may well happen here,

我猜八成会
but let's listen just to a little bit to show you

不过还是先听听看
how difficult and how far away from the theme

勃拉姆斯到底能离开主题多远
Brahms can go.

能搞多难
Okay. So we'll stop it there.

好了停一下
So it's hard for me even to get--in terms of the rhythm there--

在节奏上甚至对我来说也很难