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and you have them here and there in other places,
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particularly around Saint-étienne.
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But they are far from--
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it's very difficult to transport coal
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and so that was really kind of the problem.
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But, if you look at large-scale industrialization in France
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it still proceeds rather dramatically,
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but in the French way,
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still involving artisanal production,craft production,
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in Paris and in other cities,
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and still involving, until quite late in the century, rural industry.
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As a matter of fact, just take an example that I always use