could counter-balance the kind of just runaway,

会是一种可能会相反的调节失控
bandit capitalism of the worst excesses of capitalism,

一种及其槽糕的强盗资本主义
and that in America we live in a country where civil rights,

我们所生活的这个国家美国
civic and civil rights, are saluted but which human rights are

有着令人赞扬的公民权利
there are no human rights encoded in the United States;

但美国并没有明文规定人权
thus Guantanamo Bay, thus exceptional rendering to torture camps here and there,

因此在关塔纳摩监狱出现了虐囚丑闻
because there isn't an assumption that human rights count;

因为人权不像民权它并不重要
civil rights is what counts, and the way you get civil rights

你获得公民权利的方法就是
is becoming an American citizen or permanent residents;

成为美国公民或是永久居民
thus the big debate, which I'm not getting into, about immigration in this country,

我没有陷入关于移民问题的大争论当中去
which is a very, very big debate.

这是个非常大的争论
But I always sort of viewed that Europe would, well,

我经常认为欧洲