because you're not really sure.

所以问题得不到解决
Municipal statistics are much more accurate, but there's no--

政府的统计似乎更加准确
I don't know any global kind of statistics;

但是我不知他们是如何统计出来的
but they think about five million people.

他们说大约有500万移民
And many of them live in the suburbs, live in these HLMs,

移民中的大多数都住在贫困的郊区
they're called, "habitation loyer" "moderee", or, well, "cite".

法语中的说法是卫星城
They're housing projects, basically, and in which so many of

他们在国家的房屋计划当中
the people are poor, many depend on State assistance and

他们中大多数人都很贫穷靠国家福利生活
crowd more and more relatives into tiny spaces.

他们招致许多亲戚生活空间非常小
We know a good number of people from Zaire who were brought to France,

就像一些扎伊尔移民来到法国
thanks to a French friend of ours, a lawyer, and some of them came as

这是我们的一位律师朋友说的
basketball players, a couple of them did.

他们中的一些以篮球运动员的身份移民的