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you might call a kind of Jeffersonian idealism--
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or even a Madisonian idealism--
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that somehow this America, yes, it had problems--
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or as Jefferson said,
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we got the wolf by the ears, with slavery;
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you can't get off because the wolf will devour you;
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but if you stay on you got to ride that damn wolf forever.
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But he said that in private--
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but this kind of Jeffersonian idealism
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that somehow this grand american continent with its resources physically,
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and this grand American Constitution, this great experiment,
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would dissolve this problem,