I was just in Osaka again a few months ago and I again asked,

几个月前我在大阪又问了一次
can I please see Dojima because it's such a historic place.

能否参观堂岛这个很有历史意义的地方
Again they said, there's nothing to see there,

他们还是说那儿没什么可看的
it's all--anything from long ago is gone.

过去的遗迹都没了
That was where these markets started.

那就是交易场所最先出现的地方
Let's go back--and I'm not sure how well-developed it was in 1673,

我不确定1673年发展如何
but let's say early 1700s in Dojima--what was happening?

但堂岛在18世纪早期发生了什么呢
Well, it was the rice center for Japan.

那里是日本的米业中心
The people--rice merchants would bring their rice

米商们把大米
to Dojima and sell them there.

带到堂岛卖掉
Naturally, as you would expect,

很自然的你能想到
there were big warehouses for rice, which would store it;

那里有存放大米的大型仓库