来自《耶鲁大学开放课程：1945年后的美国小说 第11集 第11集》

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  They are what he has to work with, even though they are what defeat him
  这些是他需要利用的素材 虽然它们
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  in his effort to make sense of this experience with Magda.
  妨碍了他交代与玛格达的点点滴滴
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  And it is the experience with Magda that produces the problem
  而恰恰是与玛格达的相处引发了
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  in the first place.
  这一系列问题
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  And so, if we look at page 84,
  请看书上84页
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  you can see the sort of primal scene of this problem.
  可以看出 对这个问题的后设独白
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  This is when he and Magda were having a sort of erotic game one
  当时是在夏天 他和玛格达在小屋
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  summer in the shed.
  里玩性爱游戏
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  They were playing slaves and masters, and he was the master,
  他们扮作主仆 他是主
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  and she was the slave.
  她是仆
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  So, he's imagining their future and talking about it with Magda
  他边和玛格达边聊天
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  when they're older.
  边幻想着他们的未来