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Since I started studying the subject
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under Kelly's guidance eight or so years ago,
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you couldn't find a sort of--a lot of demonization
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in the popular culture of the industry's purveying this.
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In fact,
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one of the first examples I found was a parody
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where Rush Limbaugh, yes that Rush Limbaugh--
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our Ron Paul supporter perhaps that listens to Rush occasionally--
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Rush Limbaugh in a--I happened to hear him on July 4, 2001
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in which he did a kind of Rush style rant,
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in this case targeting--
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he was very upset about the tobacco settlement