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actually where these folks run the show!--
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I really got educated about the stigma aspect of this
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by one of their colleagues who may have spoken to this class,
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Rebecca Puel
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who was a Kelly Brownell PhD student here.
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I really got a sense from Rebecca about how stigma and--
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well issues related to that, body image and so on,
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plays into this and I think I'm, as an advocate and on,
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I'm much more careful and cautious about saying we got to
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get rid of these things that cause people to become fat.
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At the same time, there's also an implication in your question
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that it's so complicated, and shouldn't we sort of get things right,