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Well, that's not the way it is with the modern world
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and that's not the way it comes out of the enlightenment,
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the individual is the ultimate.
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The enlightenment, if you go back to its routes
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in the seventeenth century with the likes of Hobbes and Locke--
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what is the ultimate place you go to?
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It is the rights of individuals.
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You may not stamp out the rights of individuals.
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They are inherent in everything.
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Either you believe, as our founding father said that
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we were endowed with them by our creator.
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They didn't say God because,