to discover which argument can best withstand the test of rational

由此发现哪个论点能更优
scrutiny and debate.

更经得住理性的检查和讨论
There are no arguments in Homer's Iliad or Odyssey.

荷马的《伊利亚特》或《奥德赛》都是毫无争议
You hear strong and compelling stories but no arguments.

你能听到强大动人的故事但听不到争论
Socrates makes, in other words, continual

而苏格拉底做到了换言之
questioning and not the telling of stories and the recitation

用频频质询取代讲述故事背诵诗句
of verses, the essence of this new

是新的政治教育的
political education.

本质
He questions the methods of teaching of the poets.

他质询诗歌的教学方法
But, secondly, again, Homer and the poets sing the virtues of men at war.

然而第二点荷马和诗人们歌颂战士的美德
Socrates wants to replace the warrior citizen

苏格拉底想用一种新式公民代替尚武公民
with a new kind of citizen, a whole new set,

采用一套全新的体系你也许会说