and as far as I can see,

在我看来
Plato doesn't actually give

柏拉图在对话录中
us any reason to believe it in the dialogue.

也没有给出任何令人信服的理由
Consequently, we have to say, as far as I can see,

因此我们必须说起码在我看来
we haven't been given any adequate argument for the conclusion

我们没有一个够好的观点来支持这个结论
that the soul--which admittedly can think about forms and ideas--

就是承认了灵魂可以思考型相和理念
we have no good reason yet to believe,

我们也没有充分的理由来被说服
to be persuaded, that the

并且相信
soul must itself be eternal and non-physical.

灵魂它本身必须是永恒的非现实的
That's the first argument.

这是第一个观点
As I say though, Plato may

柏拉图本身
well recognize the inadequacy of that argument,

可能已经认识到这个观点站不住脚