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as an institution vis-à-vis education,
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it was the same thing,
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with reacting against the kind of dictates
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or dictates coming down from Paris.
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And when Gambetta,
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whom you can read about,whom I mentioned the other day,
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when he said,"clericalism,there's the enemy";
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and,then you had this sort of campaign against the church,
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particularly the teaching aspect of the church that's fascinating,
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which I'll talk about later.
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So,France ends up like that.
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Many people saw themselves as administrés,