You cannot imagine, it seems to me,

对我来说你无法想象
in the world that Hesiod describes,

在赫西奥德描述的世界中
Achilles or anybody else saying,

阿喀琉斯或其他人说
"Well, you insulted me

"好吧你侮辱了我
and so I'm not going to fight anymore for my polis."

因此我不会再为我的城邦作战"
That would have been inconceivable in this world.

这在这种世界中是不可思议的
Now, given this information,

现在了解了这些信息后
we are onto the problem

我们所面临的正是
that will be a problem for the Greek polis

希腊城邦在之后的所有历史时期
for the rest of its history

都要面临的问题
and it's really a problem to this very day

同时也是对于当代人的一个问题
for all people who live in some sort of a civilized community.

因为我们都生活在某种形式的文明的集体之中